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The One
2nd April 2010, 08:42 PM
Prince’s Failed LotusFlow3r Site: An Insider Dishes on ‘Polar Bear’ Decor, Fed-Up Fans
By John Jurgensen

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Last year, a Los Angeleno named Scott Addison Clay was invited into Prince’s inner sanctum –literally. Clay recalls the pop singer leading him through “the catacombs of his insanely gargantuan basement.” The tour led into a cavernous room, where a man sat at a drum set. A woman picked up a bass, Prince strapped on a guitar and a private concert ensued. Clay said, “It was the most bizarre thing. I remember thinking, do we clap?”

These and other scenes that resemble a Dave Chappelle sketch (http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=11927&allowFullScreen=false) come to life, including 2 a.m. pancakes and deafening listening sessions in a room lined with thick white fur (“It was like polar bears had laid down for him”), were all part of a run-up to the launch of Prince’s latest, greatest Web portal.

Clay and his team were from the marketing firm Cimarron Group, which develops interactive games and such for Hollywood films like “Twilight.” Prince had recruited them to build a platform for his upcoming three-album release. The result, LotusFlow3r.com, resembled a galactic aquarium, featuring doodads like a rotating orb that played videos. The promise: fans who ponied up $77 for a year-long membership would receive the three new albums, plus an ensuing flow of exclusive content, like unreleased tracks and archival videos.

A year later, LotusFlow3r has gone dark, thousands of Prince’s fans are very annoyed and Clay has been dismissed from Prince’s kingdom almost as abruptly as he was invited in.

A representative for Prince did not respond to request for comment.
The episode should serve as a warning to the growing number of artists experimenting with newfangled fan clubs and members-only content sites: feed the beast — feed it often and well — or suffer blowback from your most vocal fans.

Things in LotusFlow3r land boiled over last week when some members noticed that their credit cards had been charged an additional $77 — an automatic renewal of their memberships. Making matters worse, many of these members had previously contacted the site’s administrators to say they hadn’t gotten their money’s worth, and they wanted out when their year was up.

Prince fan sites lit up (http://prince.org/msg/13/333128/Do-you-know-the-number-for-your-credit-card-company-Prince-does-?&pg=1).

“So far I have paid another $77 for a floating jellyfish which vanishes when you click on it. Well done Prince. Nothing like treating your fans like royalty,” wrote OperatingThetan. Desire2006 added, “It looks like the [Better Business Bureau] will have 2 re-open its ‘Prince’ case file again!!!!!”

To his credit, the singer was a Web pioneer, having released an album online back in 1997 following his ugly contract dispute with Warner Bros. But his track record with online fan clubs has been spotty. In 2006, he abruptly shuttered his New Power Generation Music Club with the message, “In its current 4m there is a feeling that the NPGMC gone as far as it can go.”

Last week, some fans seemed to blame themselves for getting roped in. “I signed up again, knowing full well what happened to his past Web sites,” wrote IstenSzek.

Prince fan Steven Anthony, who was erroneously charged and then refunded, called attention to the fracas — and got a lot of hate from diehard Prince fans — with a scathing open letter to the singer on his blog. Anthony says he was “lucky” to get what he did out of his membership, including a T-shirt and access to tickets for a concert at Paisley Park in Minnesota. But Anthony still feels burned by the LotusFlow3r experience. He says, “I don’t really like Prince that much as a person right now, but I still support his work.”

After the hyped launch of LotusFlow3r.com, Prince became an absentee landlord, Clay said. “We only got stuff in dribs and drabs.” Clay declined to say how many paying members the site did attract, but he speculated that the number was a disappointment to Prince.
As for the unauthorized credit card charges, Clay said that he didn’t realize that their billing service had activated the automatic renewals. When he and his team saw the charges adding up -– and heard from irate members — they halted the process. He said “a few hundred” members had to be refunded.

Once wooed by the Purple One, Clay found himself frozen out not long after the LotusFlow3r launch. He says at one point he was peppering Prince with so many e-mails about the site and its future that the singer called Clay and told him to cut it out. About a month ago, Prince relayed the order for the site to be shut down. Now Clay is in the process of handing over LotusFlow3r.com files to a new Prince representative who Clay describes as “me 2.0.”

He and his team were paid for their work, he said, but they never had a written contract. Looking back on an experience for which Prince fans “praised and reviled me, in equal measure,” Clay said, “it was a wild year.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/04/02/my-year-with-prince/

joyinrepatition
2nd April 2010, 09:13 PM
Well Clay's got it off his chest that the LOTUSFLOW3R debacle wasn't his fault. You can only feel sorry for the guy who at one time thought that he had landed a once in a lifetime gig, only for it to turn sour before it had a chance to begin....very shabby dealings once again by Prince "shame" it had potential to be great :(

Funk
3rd April 2010, 07:54 AM
Prince is a dick

The One
5th April 2010, 06:21 AM
Prince Discovers That If You Charge People To Connect With You, You Actually Have To Connect

from the well-that-didn't-work dept


If you've never seen Kevin Smith's long, but quite funny, explanation of his week of making a documentary for Prince (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_cLJ19HMg), it's quite worth watching -- just to get a sense of "Prince World" and the way Prince will have big ideas that he starts, but never does much to follow through on. With that as background, it's really not surprising to read about the absolute disaster that his recent "fan club" business model experiment became (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/04/02/my-year-with-prince/):
The result, LotusFlow3r.com, resembled a galactic aquarium, featuring doodads like a rotating orb that played videos. The promise: fans who ponied up $77 for a year-long membership would receive the three new albums, plus an ensuing flow of exclusive content, like unreleased tracks and archival videos.

A year later, LotusFlow3r has gone dark, thousands of Prince's fans are very annoyed and Clay has been dismissed from Prince's kingdom almost as abruptly as he was invited in.
The mess got a lot more attention lately when a supposed "glitch" (uh, ok...) started automatically charging fans credit cards (http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/purple-rage-prince-fans-automatically-charged-another-year-dormant-fanclub/) for membership renewals, despite the fact that the site had gone dormant and people had specifically asked not to have their membership renewed.

There was a point, a few years back, where it looked like Prince would be the first rockstar to really embrace (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070722/223557.shtml) these sorts of new business models. He definitely was doing all kinds of experiments that involved getting people to pay for scarcities, often while giving the music away for free. And many of the experiments looked like they were done in a way to better connect with fans. But it quickly became apparent that Prince was missing a big element in all of this, in that while he wanted to connect with fans and give them a reason to buy, he also wanted to be massively controlling about it (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070913/162815.shtml).

The one thing that artists who are successfully embracing these models are discovering is that, in part, you have to go with the flow, and see where your fans take you. Part of the connecting is listening to the fans, rather than just telling them how they must enjoy your works. Prince has never been particularly good at that aspect of the fan relationship. We've talked about the value of improvisational business modeling (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100321/2133288647.shtml), where you do regular experiments -- and Prince certainly does that, but at no point does he seem to pay attention to how the fans react to the improvisations.

In the end, he seems entirely focused on his own whims, and while that may be entertaining for himself, it appears to be pissing off an awful lot of fans. If you're Prince, and you've got fans to spare, perhaps that's fine. But it's hardly a model worth emulating.

But there's a bigger point here as well. If you're trying to use a CwF+RtB-style business model (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091119/1634117011.shtml), you have to actually connect with fans in some manner. You can't just leave them high and dry. Is that difficult? Sure. Does it take work? Absolutely. But isn't that part of the point? The value that's built up from genuine connections is what makes these business models work. Taking people's money and then leaving them feeling empty handed may be the way the recording industry used to work, but it's not the path forward.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100402/1230318851.shtml

thepurpleexperience
11th April 2010, 07:23 PM
I totaly agree. and im not taking the piss outta any1 who bought in2 this. but NPGMC sent a very powerful message. stay away from cyber prince.
its wasnt bad enuff NPGMC was full of Skittin bible bashers, u was monitored banned allowed back in, kicked out.
the best sites are sites like this very one. u have freedom of speech even when at times some nob tries to make u look stupid At least u can handle that.

Lotusflow3r was an exstenion of his man hood. and no matter how much he changed it and played around with it he never got it to work.

i saw this commin, and i hate 2 say told u so..

Fans should know by now prince as had a trend of starting and not seeing them through.
$77 bucks.. no way better off in my wallet. paisley park mayb in my heart. but i love Elizabeth more ( and 4 u nationals that the old woman on the front of a £20 note).

read the small print on the next fansite opening.
it probably says "prince reserves the right to not give a **** about his fans"

thepurpleexperience
12th April 2010, 12:05 PM
Just to let you know im gonna do a review on Prince. My thoughts only. im not going to do every album cause that would b boring and send most of u in2 a coma. by then end of it i would b on drubs...anyhoo....im going to take 5 from each decade and feed u some of my thoughts. watch this space.